Guns N’ Roses Guitarist: Electronic Cigarettes Almost Killed Me, Doctors Said Keep Smoking

by Brad
June 26, 2013

So says Guns N’ Roses guitarist, DJ Ashba. In a troubling and certainly trustworthy confessional posted on Instagram, DJ detailed his near death experience with electronic cigarettes.

Apparently he purchased some electronic cigarettes from a mall in Poland, which “contained high doses of nicotine and antifreeze which kills people.” One hospital visit later, eight doctors were apparently working to save his life from an electronic cigarette that apparently contained the equivalent of “33 packs of cigarettes a day.”

Following a CAT scan, doctors were apparently shocked that all his internal organs were functioning normally. Still, they recommended he take smoking back up immediately (the most logical course of action), because his body would “go into shock if I just stop smoking…”

I could lambaste the folly of these claims (one e-cig equivalent to 825 cigarettes? COME ON MAN), and his doctors “recommendations” for the next ten years, but we’ve all been down this road before. Still, I’m curious, what sort of electronic cigarette was he using, and how credible are these doctors? Perhaps this was an attempt to mask some other sort of overdose? I suppose we’ll never know.

My estimation of the credibility of his story:

Thanks to reddit user OwenWard for the uploaded image of DJ’s Instagram, which can be found here. (Click the image to enlarge the text, it’s worth your while.)


25 Responses to “Guns N’ Roses Guitarist: Electronic Cigarettes Almost Killed Me, Doctors Said Keep Smoking”

      Todd aka Runarnd on June 26th, 2013 4:38 pm

      Someone was doing something they weren’t suppose to obviously and the ecig is the scapegoat or someone home brewed some jacked up stuff and sold it.

      *cough* bullshit *cough*

      Would love to see a follow up to this should you run into anything.

        slap_maxwell on June 26th, 2013 5:13 pm

        This guy is a nitwit, plain and simple. Unless he was vaping 100mg/ml base liquid, his claims are as bogus as the day is long. Sadly, we all know this, but now, others who don’t have a clue are gonna start falling for the Big Lie all the more. How long, oh Lord?

          Dee Hana TwoSpirits on June 26th, 2013 9:56 pm

          This is severely on the bullshit side of the fence. I have vaped ecigs for over two years now. THERE IS NO ANTI-FREEZE IN NICOTINE JUICE. You see, that’s where the confusion started years ago. The primary base for ecig juice is propylene glycol….PG for short. PG is used in all kinds of products as a base…mainly food products like imitation vanilla, for example. It is also used in anti-freeze and other products available out there. That DOES NOT mean it has anti-freeze in it…that’s just fucking stupid and ignorant on DJ’s part as well as the fucktard doctor who told him to keep smoking…that asshat ought to have his license revoked. I wish I knew of a way to get this msg. to DJ…I’m very knowledgeable about the ecig industry as a whole.

            Laura J Tubritt-Anderson on June 26th, 2013 10:16 pm

            What a load of crap. There are so many parts of his ‘story’ that don’t pass the credibility test. I’ve used ecigarettes since November, 2009. I’ve never suffered from any ill side effects. Even if I did, the last thing my doctor would suggest is to go back to cigarettes! I call HOGWASH! (Incidentally, I never cared for Guns N Roses anyway)

              Chris Calfo on June 26th, 2013 10:28 pm

              Sounds like a visit to a bad dealer. I hate to break it to this guy but you can’t vape antifreeze. It doesn’t work like that. Then again when I used to pump my body full of drugs and get into interesting predicaments, I’d blame anything to not look like a complete retard.

                miamiMom63 on June 26th, 2013 10:28 pm

                This has to be totally NOT true. It’s quite comical. It’s sort of dumb on our part to even respond to this.

                  MikeVaperFromThePhils. on June 26th, 2013 10:41 pm

                  The ethylene glycol was the base and undiluted nicotine was the additive… be careful ordering from mail from Europe, people.

                    Mark on June 26th, 2013 10:43 pm

                    He’s full of SHIT!!!!!

                      Mark on June 26th, 2013 10:45 pm

                      He’s stupid and full of SHIT!!!!!!!!!

                        smscott on June 26th, 2013 10:53 pm

                        This reeks of lies on every single level so much that it’s almost funny, or would be if it wasn’t so potentially damaging. Liquid does not have antifreeze, Im not even sure how you’d get THAT much nicotine into a mix, and NO reputable doctor would recommend you start smoking again. Ive been vaping since 2010 and I am not only not suffering any ill effects, I am significantly healthier since I stopped the poisoning myself with cigarettes.

                          fakefunk on June 26th, 2013 11:09 pm

                          Go here and tell him how you feel!


                            hificat101 on June 27th, 2013 12:04 am

                            Is it possible this guy bought like 200mg nic concentrate by mistake because of a language barrier? I don’t really DIY, but I wonder how much nicotine would be in 2.4ml clearo filled with straight nic concentrate, or if it would even be vapeable with no base.

                              ManuDawg on June 27th, 2013 12:56 am

                              Yeah I agree with runarnd. I think he probably took, smoked or shot up something he shouldn’t have. Any Vaper who started out with prefilled Cartos knows how bogus the claim is that a Carto holds the equivalent of 1 pack of smokes never mind 33 packs. And antifreeze, really? PG is an ingredient in antifreeze but it is the ingredient in the non toxic form of antifreeze and certainly is not antifreeze itself. Someone should have put at least a little effort at making this B/S story plausible.

                                Angie French on June 27th, 2013 1:06 am

                                Whatever the case may be on this… It sounds like someone didn’t know how to mix juice. NO, there isn’t antifreeze in e-cig juice! Others have explained that already. I really do admire DJ…he’s a great artist. The media blows stuff out of proportion. If people want to smoke, they are going to. I switch back and forth from vaping to cigs still. For some it’s harder to quit than others and/or switch. I just hope IF the occasion comes up again he wants to switch to vaping e-cigs, he does it from a shop that knows. They’re in his home town. Go to people that know their shit. I see no need to bash Ashba over this…even though I wondered and had a fit at first (KNOWING that legit vaping supplies won’t harm you at all!)
                                We all make mistakes, we live…learn and try not to do the same shit again is all. It’s a new day already for the guy. Smoke em if ya got em man. When he’s ready to switch he will or won’t.

                                  Nick papagiorgio on June 27th, 2013 1:19 am

                                  Sounds like someone needed a cover story for a heroin overdose.

                                    Dee Hana TwoSpirits on June 27th, 2013 1:27 am

                                    Ok folks…here’s the skitty on anti-freeze…I remember when I first started vaping in Jan. of 2011. There was information going around then that ecigs contained an “ingredient” that is used in anti-freeze. Now, that is a true statement. The ingredient in vape juice that is also used in anti-freeze is propylene glycol (PG)…but this ingredient is also used in many foods that we consume every day. So that’s how the anti-freeze rumor started. And now its in the news again….geeez 🙁

                                      MrsCasey on June 27th, 2013 1:39 am

                                      Angie, I don’t believe anyone is bashing DJ for smoking or for trying ecigs for 9 months and going back to smoking. There are plenty of people in the community who occasionally smoke, go back to smoking and back to ecigs again or even smoke a few cigarettes a day. The problem is that if this story is untrue, which it seems to be to me, he is doing damage by giving his instagram followers the impression that ecigs are very dangerous and are not a safer alternative than tobacco cigarettes. These people might have picked up an ecig and been able to break their smoking addiction had they not read his instagram.

                                        tiffany on June 27th, 2013 2:20 am

                                        wow there are too many things wrong here… if there is a poland e-cig that is equal to 33 packs, i want one, that thing would last me forever!

                                          Darla Mcgahan on June 27th, 2013 3:21 am

                                          What a load of crap this is. There is no antifreeze in e-juice first of all. And second to have as much as 825 cigarettes, which you absorb 1mg per cigarette, you would have to drink 34ml of 24mg, or even more of lessor mg. And if you did that you wouldn’t be around to talk about it. 825 mg would kill you really fast. There are no devices that hold that much juice to be equal to 825 cigarettes. There is no way you could vape that much juice in even 1 day. Seems like a very bad publicity stunt and trying to give e-cigs a bad name. I think it was more like he tried something else in the e-cig that made him sick. Shame on you DJ Ashba.

                                            Gary on June 27th, 2013 7:50 am

                                            So, something happened that ‘nearly killed him’ and he picks an e-cigarette to blame it on. Then again, people who’d take medical advice from a musician…well, that might be natural selection on its own. But really, this whole story sounds like a steaming pile of BS.

                                              toweknee on June 27th, 2013 10:45 am

                                              Nah had nothing to do with the heroine or any other drug he was probably doing. Such a crock of crap. This pisses me off to no end to spread such misinformation.

                                                Thesheepdog on June 28th, 2013 11:49 am

                                                He must have seen foreign doctors. (or none at all) with enough money you can get a foreign dr to say anything you want.

                                                I’d like to find the shop in Poland he purchased from. I bet that guy would have a great liable lawsuit!

                                                  kelli perkins on June 29th, 2013 2:58 pm

                                                  Expect rumors and garbage to come out of the woodwork. lmbo He should have bought usa juice…..

                                                    Nev on July 19th, 2013 1:44 pm

                                                    what a douche!! The picture he posted on IG is proof of his douche-iness

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